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I just read a few articles about sCRM. One was a post on a blog where the blog doesn't allow comments (very social). The other was talking about Ajax enabled technology that revolutionizes CRM (OMG) and yet another one described the advantage of getting Twitter streams and Facebook wall entrances all feed into the CRM system for better customer information (yes more data). Another system suggest that it takes everything a sales person ever needs so they never have to leave their CRM system (wow - how about leaving the company to actually deal with the customer?). The worst are the ones who still promote the "low touch sales model". Automation is still the big word. Didn't we automate already to death so that the customer doesn't want to speak with us any longer?
NOW - CRM was always a hard nut to crack. Mostly beloved by executives to get data and hated by sales people who (in my personal opinion rightfully) prefer to deal with customers not with data administration and data analysis. I joined - really just for the fun of it - three sCRM and related presentations and was shocked what a sales or marketing person would have to do to "leverage" all the wonderful options of triggers, automated nurture programs, forecast granularity adjustments and a gazillion other options. Social CRM now feeds even more data to an already overwhelmed sales person. There is no word about the actual customer relationship - zero - nada - nothing. Is that how we bring the economy back?
A friend of my (a sales person): "Axel, that is today's reality. We are customer data admins, not customer relationship managers. We manage the theoretic aspects of the relationship but I am about 10-20% of my business hours with a customer - at best." What do you do all day long? "I try to reach customers based on a suggestion list, call and call and typically leave 10 voice mails - I know nobody will listen to, in many cases don't even get to voice mail and one or two people I may be able to talk directly. If I'm on the road I prepare my trip, travel optimization, planning, arranging meetings which is a just an enormous task in itself and so forth. Weekly forecast review, weekly planning for the review meeting, again data into and out of the CRM system - the whole nine yard." OK and 1 out of 8 hours a day with customers? - "As you can see now - AT BEST. Other activities are reviewing the lead process, the nurturing process, we have very sophisticated processes and it takes a lot to actually go through them every day".
Bolting an "S" onto the CRM seem to make it harder not better. Of course in the days of Social Media companies need to do something. But sCRM seems to be the opposite direction. sCRM seems to be accelerating the disaster we have on the sales side. Not only because if the incremental information flow but also because of the farther automation instead of the social engagement. Living in a CRM system - that's what CRM vendors like to see. But don't you want to see the sales person be with the customer and spend only a fraction of the time with ANY system?
I love Brian Solis statement: "Take the C out of the sCRM". As our networks grow exponentially, we also may need a good tool, but we need a tool that helps us with the actual relationship - not with the data we aggregate.
Social Relationship Management as it is is currently defined may be a solution to the problem as it focuses on the relationship - not at the data.
Axel
http://xeesm.com/AxelS
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I just read a few articles about sCRM. One was a post on a blog where the blog doesn't allow comments (very social). The other was talking about Ajax enabled technology that revolutionizes CRM (OMG) and yet another one described the advantage of getting Twitter streams and Facebook wall entrances all feed into the CRM system for better customer information (yes more data). Another system suggest that it takes everything a sales person ever needs so they never have to leave their CRM system (wow - how about leaving the company to actually deal with the customer?). The worst are the ones who still promote the "low touch sales model". Automation is still the big word. Didn't we automate already to death so that the customer doesn't want to speak with us any longer?
NOW - CRM was always a hard nut to crack. Mostly beloved by executives to get data and hated by sales people who (in my personal opinion rightfully) prefer to deal with customers not with data administration and data analysis. I joined - really just for the fun of it - three sCRM and related presentations and was shocked what a sales or marketing person would have to do to "leverage" all the wonderful options of triggers, automated nurture programs, forecast granularity adjustments and a gazillion other options. Social CRM now feeds even more data to an already overwhelmed sales person. There is no word about the actual customer relationship - zero - nada - nothing. Is that how we bring the economy back?
A friend of my (a sales person): "Axel, that is today's reality. We are customer data admins, not customer relationship managers. We manage the theoretic aspects of the relationship but I am about 10-20% of my business hours with a customer - at best." What do you do all day long? "I try to reach customers based on a suggestion list, call and call and typically leave 10 voice mails - I know nobody will listen to, in many cases don't even get to voice mail and one or two people I may be able to talk directly. If I'm on the road I prepare my trip, travel optimization, planning, arranging meetings which is a just an enormous task in itself and so forth. Weekly forecast review, weekly planning for the review meeting, again data into and out of the CRM system - the whole nine yard." OK and 1 out of 8 hours a day with customers? - "As you can see now - AT BEST. Other activities are reviewing the lead process, the nurturing process, we have very sophisticated processes and it takes a lot to actually go through them every day".
Bolting an "S" onto the CRM seem to make it harder not better. Of course in the days of Social Media companies need to do something. But sCRM seems to be the opposite direction. sCRM seems to be accelerating the disaster we have on the sales side. Not only because if the incremental information flow but also because of the farther automation instead of the social engagement. Living in a CRM system - that's what CRM vendors like to see. But don't you want to see the sales person be with the customer and spend only a fraction of the time with ANY system?
I love Brian Solis statement: "Take the C out of the sCRM". As our networks grow exponentially, we also may need a good tool, but we need a tool that helps us with the actual relationship - not with the data we aggregate.
Social Relationship Management as it is is currently defined may be a solution to the problem as it focuses on the relationship - not at the data.
Axel
http://xeesm.com/AxelS
